Utopia gets nowhere if they don’t know what they don’t know - Martin Prior


Utopia gets nowhere if they don’t know what they don’t know

Such a sentiment would strongly accord with the views of Marx, Engels and other communists who put stress on scientific socialism.  At least if they ‘don’t know what they don’t know’ in the sense of not knowing the nature of their ignorance or lack of knowledge.

In fact Marxists saw their approach as an advance over those they described as utopian socialists, such as Wilfred Owen: rather than say what your ideal society should look like, when you can’t possibly know, try advancing through the scientific analysis of existing society.

The problem about possible utopian societies is how long can they survive?  The Australian aborigines lived for millennia in a society which appeared stable and indeed worked an amazingly short week, I believe 14 hours or so, but collapsed the moment the Europeans arrived.  But now we know that the southern clans gradually expanded north leaving only the north of Northern Territory and Western Australia to other groups.  The Moriori of the Chatham Islands to the east of New Zealand (hence balancing Australia!) now number 300 or so, none full-blooded, who ‘lived by a code of non-violence and passive resistance’ (wiki).  Fortunately their language is well documented, and they are gradually rediscovering their identity after the arrival of the Maori on their island.




Could my model of socialism – see above - be the basis of a Utopia?    Embedded in it are skills, and perhaps scientific socialism.  This is precisely the domain of knowledge of what one does and doesn’t know.

Well, I for one like to think I know what I don’t know – a very ambiguous phrase – so tomorrow I’m off to a conference on Logic, Knowledge and Language (in memory of the Belgian logician Paul Gochet), and so this brief contribution.  I have only intermittently studied the philosophy and logic of knowledge, so maybe I shall learn something.

Martin Prior


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