'Philosophical' and 'Philosophy' - By Selim 'Selim' Talat

'Philosophical' and 'Philosophy'

I often find myself wondering if the 'Talk to a Philosopher' sign at the stall is truthful. It certainly works, and is a great way to communicate things on a direct level. But how much philosophy are we actually doing? It is seems so open and easy - is philosophy really just questions out of a hat?

Posing the question

It is safe to say that there are various levels of philosophy. This does not mean that the more complex is any better or worse, but only that it requires more vigour to understand. Some philosophy is so rigid and heavy that it would require a spare three months and the aid of a Dr.Bowles to come to grips with! This is why I want to make the distinction between 'philosophical' and 'philosophy'.

A good example of the philosophical can be found in any of the Nasreddin Hodja anecdotes. He is a wise man, and a notorious prankster, who is famous in a number of lands, but most closely associated with turkish folk-lore. Let us have a look at one of these anecdotes:

One day, Great Tamerlane went to the Aksehir Central bath, where Hodja was waiting. After getting undressed and wrapping pestamals (large bath towels) around themselves, they entered the hot room. They sat on 'gobek tasi' (large very hot marble). There, Tamerlane asked the Hodja:

  'Hodja, you are a very learned one! You know to appraise value properly. Tell me, what is my worth?'
  'Ten Akce' replied the Hodja
Tamerlane flew into a rage, fuelled by such a low appraisal of himself.
  'You idiot!' said Tamerlane, 'how can you say my value is ten Akce. This bath towel   alone is worth ten Akce!'
  'I included that when I gave you my estimate!'

Funny it is. To ruin this brilliant jest by explaining it, Nasreddin is saying that Tamerlane is worthless. And it is quite philosophical. But philosophy? The beginnings of philosophy yes, but I would say that we are not doing Philosophy (capital P!) through the above anecdote. It is profound, but it is not part of a larger systematic profundity! Our Nasreddin Hodja is a wisened prankster, underminer of authority, a secular voice for sanity and practical master of common sense, but he doesn't have a single system which he espouses - at least, not one that I am aware of. This does not make such a folk-hero any less enriching to the soul, but I would not put him in the same category as, say, Immanuel Kant. Nasreddin is far too readable!

To provide a counter point, I will provide a random quote from Parmenides great poem 'On Nature'. Beware – it is a dense one!

One path only is left for us to speak of: that it is. On this path there are a multitude of indications that what-is, being ungenerated, is also imperishable, whole, of a single kind, immovable and complete. Nor was it once, nor will it be, since it is, now, all together, one and continuous. For what coming-to-be of it will you seek? How and from where did it grow?

Parmenides is saying here that we can only speak of what exists. He is saying that what exists cannot have been generated out of nothing (because we cannot speak of something which does not exist) and is therefore uncreated, undestroyable, unmoving and complete. Change is therefore impossible. This is part of Parmenides metaphysics (which is a fantastic word for theory of reality). If you were to ask me what school of thought this was, we could go to the Stanford Encyclopedia of philosophy. There we might find a raging debate: Is Parmenides true to the 'Strict-Monist interpretation', a 'Logical-Dialectical Interpretation' or even a 'Meta-Principle Interpretation'! I do not know, as most of these words are beyond my meagre understanding. Yet on a surface level, it is demonstrating how philosophers categorize thought, and how an understanding of the history of philosophy is essential to participating in these discussions and understanding someone like Parmenides.

This shows that philosophy is not one thing, but a huge variety of well-argued (and sometimes lived) ideas. Great dialogues have raged throughout years, the decades, the centuries, even the millennia. To continue them, we must first understand what came before us. To look forward, we follow the trail of history to its horizon (which for Western philosophy lies in the direction of ancient greece).

To ignore this challenge for more easily accessible philosophy is to blind ourselves. This is why academic philosophy is so important - it will ensure that there is always someone out there who understands the immortal classics. I cannot stress enough the importance of the classics, the power beholden in those ancient words. They are more powerful than any religious revelation, or any particular political ideology, or any transient consumer enterprise. You can rest assured that the most 'successful' in even today's society are familiar with their Plato. Anti-intellectual rantings against academic philosophy are pursued by people who have neither the courage nor the consistency to deal with it.

Answering the question

So, what are the differences between philosophical and philosophy? I would say that something philosophical is often a question, or a wise saying relating to practical life. A small piece of a massive puzzle, placed down on the jigsaw board of reality every now and again.

Full-on Philosophy does raise questions, but I would say that it also attempts to answer them afterwards. For what is the point of a question if there is no answer? I call utterly false the prejudice against philosophy which sees it as a purely questioning discipline. Many a philosopher has ended philosophy (at least in their own minds!) with an epic piece of work. And other great philosophers produced complete systems of thought, Spinoza and his Ethics coming instantly to mind. These were massive jigsaws, with all of the pieces in the box (you just have to work out how to do them).

Philosophy does provide us with the best-reasoned answers, even if we can never truly know that they are absolutely right. It also provides us with complete answers; just look at any of the four great schools of ancient greece for a working example. These answers often lead to more questions, or challenges against them, and never truly seem to solve it all. This is surely better than a hodge-podge of ideas on random t-shirts or holding onto a belief because it feels comfortable to. Furthermore, philosophy can provide a guide on how to live. It just requires a lot more understanding and effort than a one-off quote. Philosophical systems might use maxims to promote themselves and be easier to comprehend, but these are not replacements for the harder work of comprehension.
'Philosophy' is largely systematic and truly deep, not just in the questions it tries to answer, but also in the literal length and time taken to understand it. 'Philosophical' thinking is profound, but out of the context of a complete system. Both are useful, however, I would not say they are the same thing. This article for instance is 'philosophical' but not a work of 'philosophy'.

What we must truly be careful of are intellectual tricks disguised as philosophy, catchy little sentences or attempts to be clever. To finish on a cynical note, this is a quick paraphrased line from some horrible advert I once saw on the brain-melt-box: 'What if we replaced 'OK', with 'What if?'

Utterly sickening.



Selim 'Selim' Talat


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